obama in their only interview together this year. as with all of barbara's interviews, this one is quite revealing. barbara, good morning. >> good morning. now, i see you. good morning. i have been fortunate to interview the president and first lady five, different times. and i think you'll see that when they're together, they're different. there's an affection and a relaxation that you don't see, you know, when he's addressing the camera during a serious interview. they bring out the best of each other. do you think that the first lady might have made a better president than you? >> of course. that's an easy question. but she's smart enough to know that, you know, she might not want to go through the process. >> i absolutely don't agree. i mean, it takes -- he has a level of patience and focus and tenacity and calm, you know, that -- that just doesn't, you know, come by. >> you don't have that patience? >> i definitely don't. >> so, do you, you know, when everything's quiet late in the evening, do you nag him and say, honey, why don